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Dr. Jennifer Contarino Panning

When You’re Looking for a Therapist, Support Small Practices!

February 19, 2025 By Dr. Jennifer Contarino Panning Leave a Comment

If you listen to any podcast or radio show or watch TV shows, you’ve most likely heard or seen an advertisement for BetterHelp (will refer to them as BH from now on) which is one of the ‘big box’ therapy platforms, offering both texting and chat therapy, as well as telehealth sessions. BH is a Venture Capital/Private Equity funded company acquired by Teladoc a few years ago with a current valuation of over a billion dollars.

Any time someone asks how to find a therapist, I try my best to provide useful information as to why supporting these platforms are problematic and why finding a local therapist who works in a solo or small group practice is a much better option.

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Orchid show at Chicago Botanic Garden

Privacy Concerns

In 2023, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) reached a $7.8 million dollar settlement with BH for sharing their users’ personal information and health information with third parties such as Facebook without knowledge or permission from these users.

At Mindful Psychology Associates (MPA), we use Zoom for Healthcare platform for telehealth sessions and an Electronic Health Record (EHR) and Google suite platforms which are all HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act) compliant. We take confidentiality and HIPAA laws very seriously as confidentiality and privacy are essential for clients being able to safely reveal their most vulnerable thoughts and feelings. In addition, all of our staff completes HIPAA training as part of their onboarding. We do not offer texting therapy as a modality due to problems such as privacy/confidentiality, as well as unique difficulties to texting such as not being able to verify who is receiving treatment and absence of non-verbal expressions, i.e., tone and intonation.

Technology

We do not use artificial intelligence (AI) in any form at Mindful Psychology Associates. You will not get an AI-generated response, we do not use AI in marketing or any client communications. AI will not be listening in on your therapy sessions nor generating notes for our clinicians!

Therapists and Care Standards

BH therapists are all 1099 independent contractors so BH does not have much oversight, review, or investment into their clinical skills. Additionally, despite these platforms having much financial backing, they pay their therapists quite low so therapist turnover is high.

Therapists at Mindful Psychology Associates are W2 employees and we pay our therapists fairly (with benefits) designed for ethical employment, work-life balance, growth, and longevity; most of our staff has been at MPA for two or more years. Our full-time therapists’ caseloads are around 25 clinical hours per week, which allows for a reasonable workload with plenty of time for activities related to clinical care, such as reading, researching treatment modalities, and consulting with other professionals.

Because we are a small practice, we take hiring very seriously. It is not enough for a therapist applicant to simply have their clinical license and some relevant experience; we screen for clinical skills and decision making, crisis intervention skills, and commitment to high ethical standards and professionalism. Additionally, we identify therapist candidates with personal characteristics (warmth, openness, curiosity) that increase the likelihood of a therapist being happy, effective, and successful. We aim for our therapists to stay at MPA for a minimum of two years so client care is least likely to be impacted. The big box platforms tend to have higher turnover due to low pay and other related difficulties, with many BH therapists treating their jobs more like a side hustle.

Platforms such as BH are often referred to as the Uber/Lyft model to therapy. As such, therapists utilize the platform to see patients and get referrals but there is no clinical oversight of their clinicians—no supervision, consultation, or any involvement with their clinical work.

At MPA, we offer every clinician several different levels of support. Our provisionally licensed clinicians have weekly supervision and close oversight to monitor their clinical skills, assist with their development as a clinician, and provide mentorship for work-life balance. Everyone has 24/7 access to our Clinical Director for professional consultation and we expect our clinicians to discuss high risk clinical situations because we know that discussing a safety issue or other pressing matter can be stressful so is best done with the support and guidance from seasoned colleagues.

Personalized Care

If a client is seeing a therapist on a therapy platform, they may be able to contact customer support but are unlikely to be connected to a clinical supervisor that has direct knowledge of the clinician’s work and may be able to help understand what might not be working for them in their therapy. If a client has concerns about their therapy at MPA, they can speak to their therapist, their therapist’s supervisor (if applicable), the Clinical Director, or myself as the Founder. We believe that the fit between therapist and client is a crucial part of the healing process, so if something is not working well we want to help clients understand if this can be resolved. If it doesn’t seem workable, we will work hard to facilitate a referral to another MPA therapist or a different therapist in the community if necessary.

If you have questions about your insurance coverage, need to update your credit card on file, or have a question about your recent invoice you can call our office and speak to our office manager who is an actual human working from our Evanston office, not some random customer service employee who you can only reach via email.

Unlike the big box platforms, we take the process of matching a client with one of our therapists very seriously because we want to set the client up for success from the very beginning. Some clients request a therapist based on modality or areas of specialty, other times clients request a therapist based on demographics. They prefer a younger or older therapist or one who is a parent or a woman…and we do our absolute best to honor these requests.

Ownership

BH and similar therapy platforms are not owned by clinicians—they are VC/PE funded companies and therefore answer to their investors and executives, most of whom are not clinicians. BH’s founder is also not a clinician. BH is owned by TelaDoc Health, a publicly traded company. These companies have a hefty budget for marketing, advertising, and SEO so have caused significant disruption to local practices by their sheer financial resources to dominate ads and sponsor google ad placements. When therapy clients pay BH for therapy services, a very small part of that is going directly to the therapist, and much of that fee is helping their wealthy investors become more wealthy, and fueling a high powered company to become even more disruptive.

MPA was founded by myself, a Licensed Clinical Psychologist, and I am still the CEO and actively engaged in daily operations including hiring and overseeing staff. The majority of our clients use their health insurance to receive therapy services, and we are proud that we are in network with three popular health insurance plans, even though we have to reduce our fees to be in compliance with their in-network requirements.

When you support a small practice, you know where your money is going—most of it directly to your therapist, and the rest covers expenses to the practice. We do not have investors nor are backed by any venture capital or private equity money. Additionally, we have been in the Northwestern University and Evanston community for 20 years now. We have enjoyed a solid reputation and have a strong referral network of other clinicians and referral partners such as psychiatrists, dieticians, and local treatment centers. If a client needs a referral to another treatment provider, we can give names of professionals we know and trust. We have contributed much to the local community including providing low-fee therapy and pro-bono speaking events to local schools and organizations. We have appreciated being a part of Evanston’s small business community since 2004 and many of our clients are now enjoying coming in person to our downtown Evanston location—again, another option that a therapy platform cannot provide.

As our country and world becomes more impersonal, tech-focused, and disconnected, some things cannot be replicated nor replaced by tech or AI. In my opinion, your therapy experience is one of those things—I feel strongly that human empathy, personal connection, and compassion are crucial to a successful experience in therapy. I also hate to think that someday all businesses will be owned by larger corporate conglomerates…I appreciate that my accountant and insurance broker are both woman-owned small businesses.

For all of these reasons, please consider supporting a local solo therapist or small group practice if you’re seeking a therapist! Meet our Evanston therapists, too!


Dr. Jennifer Contarino Panning, Phy, D., Founder, President, and CEO of Mindful Psychology Associates PC, is a mental health leader and innovator and has been an Illinois Licensed Clinical Psychologist for twenty years.

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Coping with Interpersonal Trauma: Trauma Support Group

November 4, 2024 By Dr. Jennifer Contarino Panning Leave a Comment

Trauma impacts the mind and body both as it occurs and long after the trauma is over. Understanding how trauma can affect us emotionally, physically, and mentally can help to reduce distress and inform how to cope.

However, doing this alone can be challenging!

Drawing on evidence-based research, our supportive skills group aims for participants to explore how relational trauma currently affects them, learn how to manage symptoms, and gain social support.

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This trauma support group is for adults 18+ who have experienced trauma in a romantic partnership or family relationships. It is also appropriate for those who would benefit from an additional source of support to complement individual therapy as this supportive skills group addresses the current impacts of trauma rather than processing traumatic experiences.

We ask that you commit to weekly attendance to create a safe environment in which we explore potentially challenging topics together.

  • Tuesdays, weekly beginning November 2024
  • Noon – 1:00 pm
  • 12–16 sessions
  • $30 per session; Self pay or BCBS PPO

Led by advanced therapy externs, Iman Alhabib, M.A., and Danielle Marasa, M.A. (supervised by Amanda Stagg, Psy.D.).

If you’re interested and think you would be a good fit, contact Amanda (Snell) Stagg, Psy. D., to schedule a brief screening process and learn more about the group.

For details about this Fall 2024 group, download this Trauma Support Group PDF.

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Bridging the Generations: Parents, Your Teens Need to Talk!

August 20, 2024 By Dr. Jennifer Contarino Panning Leave a Comment

I remember as a parent to young kids, my friend with older kids telling me, “I was exhausted when my kids were younger but in hindsight small kids, smaller problems. Now with older kids, I realize bigger kids, bigger problems!” 

Parenting a tween or teen is not for the faint of heart: moodiness, mean kids, hormones, shifting relationships with family members, and experiencing the massive bodily changes associated with puberty are all a normal and predictable part of this time in your child’s life. Along with this comes serious challenges as a parent! 

You may be thinking—my tween/teen is quiet, well behaved, and seemingly fine. The odds are that your child may be suppressing or avoiding their emotions, rather than not experiencing any emotional experiences. 

An August 7, 2024, Gallup poll, Parents Avoid Hard—but Helpful—Conversations with Gen Z , found that while 80% of tweens/teens found conversations with their parents to be helpful, over 40% of parents find it difficult to communicate with their kids about topics such as emotions and social media.  

The good news is that the majority of parents do, and can communicate with their kids about potentially difficult topics!

What about the other percentage (almost 50%) of parents who find it challenging? Can these parents learn these skills, or is it a hopeless cause?

Let’s first consider the historical background here. Most parents of Gen Zers are Gen Xers or Millennial generations—and many of Gen X/Millennials—were parented by Baby Boomer parents. If we go back even further, we remember that Baby Boomers were parented by the Silent Generation, who believed that children should be seen and not heard. 

Baby boomer parenting was characterized by shaming, lectures, being hands-off, and a disregard, if not invalidation, of kids’ emotions. Remember—these parents as children were told they shouldn’t even be talking or expressing themselves in any way so you can see the progression over time.

When Gen Xers became parents, the pendulum swung hard to the other extreme. Overparenting, anxious worry about their children, and often erring on the side of being overprotective or not letting their kids handle stressors or challenging situations. Much of this was a direct response from the latchkey kid, uber independent norm of Gen Xers, as well as many women having careers before leaving their jobs to stay at home with their children. The perfectionistic and driven nature of the ‘career woman’ often transferred to their children. Tiger Moms and helicopter parenting became more normalized as this cultural shift occurred. 

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Why might some Gen X/Millennial parents be uncomfortable discussing potentially difficult topics with their tweens/teens?

  • Early Environment
    If they were raised in families where talking about feelings such as sadness, stress, or anxiety was not allowed, their emotional vocabulary (ability to recognize and identify emotions) may be stunted. In certain cultures, discussing emotions directly (especially ‘negative’ ones such as anger) was discouraged and then indirect communication patterns were encouraged (passive-aggressive behavior, not stating needs directly, mind reading).
  • Shaming for Having Emotions
    Some Gen-Xers grew up hearing statements like, “Why are you crying?” “You have nothing to be sad about” or “I’ll give you something to cry about”. If someone was questioned when having emotions, instead of being provided with support and empathy, it’s unsurprising when they decide to keep their emotions private and hidden from others. 
  • Emotions are Scary
    If a child was raised in an environment with fighting adults, screaming, yelling, or calling names, this can be scary for a child and lead to nervous system dysregulation and suppression of emotions. Many children lacked role models of how to express emotions in a more calm and regulated manner. Emotions such as anger or frustration may be difficult to express.
  • They are not uncomfortable or detached from their own emotions.
    If parents are detached from their own emotional experience, they are unlikely to access their feelings or talk about emotions openly. Some people are highly logical and reason based and minimize emotional impact.
  • They are afraid of making a mistake.
    Many parents want to do right by their children, and lack confidence in having conversations that are challenging or they feel unskilled by. They don’t want to say the wrong thing or potentially have their child shut down as a result of their conversation.
  • They are overwhelmed or confused.
    Especially when it comes to social media and online behavior, many parents feel behind the times or unsure of what their children are doing on their phones. They don’t know where to start or how to create safety in a conversation rather than their child feeling judged by them.

How can parents develop their skills and increase their comfort level to be able to talk to their kids?

Firstly, if you are a parent recognizing your own discomfort with emotions and want to work on this to be able to talk more with your kids, congratulations! Awareness and understanding of this (potentially painful) dynamic is so important. I hope you can have compassion for yourself as you gain these skills.

There are many great resources for developing these skills, here are a few ideas:

  • Set a timer on your phone for a few times during the day where you do a check-in with yourself. What are you feeling at the moment? Scan your body to see where you might find clues as to how you are feeling. Is there tension in your shoulders or back? Is your mind busy with racing thoughts? Are you feeling some pent up energy or calm? If your kneejerk reaction is to think that you’re not feeling anything, take a deep breath and breathe for a few minutes to ground yourself so you can discover what you’re experiencing.
  • Get Curious
    If you find yourself having an emotional reaction during the day, pause to examine what is happening. Did something make you upset? What was going on? Were you thinking about something from your past that led to you feeling a certain way? Or perhaps something you’re worried about that hasn’t yet happened? Also if you felt like you couldn’t pause when you reacted, notice that too.
  • Use Plotchik’s Emotion wheel to help you identify and understand what you are feeling in any moment.
  • Books
    One great resource is Permission to Feel: Unlocking the Power of Emotions to Help Our Kids, Ourselves, and Our Society Thrive by Marc Brackett.
  • Movies
    Pixar’s Inside Out 1 and 2 are both excellent films that focus on emotional development. Yes, they are animated movies so designed for kids but a wonderful resource for adults also who are curious about their emotional world.
  • Mentors
    If you know someone who you consider to be in touch with their emotions, ask them how they developed those skills. You may gain some valuable information and learn from their journey.
  • Therapy
    Therapy is a wonderful tool for helping people who are disconnected from their emotions to become more comfortable feeling, identifying, and discussing how they are feeling
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Tips for Talking to Your Tween/Teen

  • Take them somewhere in the car (they are in the passenger seat) and ask them how they have been doing lately. (Ask for more information if they reply ‘fine’!) Many kids feel intimidated by face-to-face eye contact, so a car is a perfect environment for lessening that pressure!
  • Ask them if anything has been bothering them lately at school, with friends, on social media, or at home. This approach communicates caring and openness. Let them know you are here for them if they need to talk.
  • Introduce talking about emotions in your home by role modeling this behavior yourself. Talk about a hard day, something that is making you sad or upset, etc. 
  • Focus on listening to your child—a natural inclination of parents is to jump into problem-solving mode. While this is understandable and can be helpful, many kids just want to be heard and listened to rather than offered feedback or advice.
  • Get comfortable with being uncomfortable! Starting to delve into deeper topics with your kids may feel daunting. Your kids may not respond positively (or at all). This is all normal and just keep trying!

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College Students and Mental Health: A One-Hour Zoom Webinar for Parents

August 7, 2023 By Dr. Jennifer Contarino Panning

Learn about latest trends in college student mental health, practical strategies to discuss with your student before they leave for college, how to access resources, and how to best adjust to your student leaving for college.

FREE via Zoom on Tuesday, August 15, 2023; 5:00 pm – 6:00 pm.
Join Dr. Contarino Panning for information and resources about helping your young adult children.

For more information and to register: evanstonpsychologists.com/webinar

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Mediation: Making Divorce Less Terrible

April 14, 2023 By Dr. Jennifer Contarino Panning Leave a Comment

A Free Talk for Therapists

Learn more about the mediation process from a legal pro. Creative collaborative and mediated agreements are more likely to enable all parties and their children to succeed in the future. Attorney Rachel Moore will discuss alternatives to going to court — specifically mediation and collaborative divorce, as well as covering some of the benefits of using each approach. Common myths and pet peeves about mediation will also be examined.

  • FRIDAY, MAY 5, 2023
  • 9:00 AM – 10:30 AM
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Speaker Rachel Moore

Former Assistant Attorney General for the State of Illinois, Rachel Moore is a Collaborative Divorce Institute Fellow. Her private practice, Rachel Moore Law, LLC, is now devoted to collaborative law, facilitative mediation, and representing parties utilizing mediation.

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About the Event

REGISTRATION REQUIRED:

  • Held at Mindful Psychology Associates, 636 Church St., Suite 520, Evanston, Illinois
  • 9:00 AM–9:30 AM: Networking and pastries
  • 9:30 AM–10:30 AM: Presentation and Q&A
  • Free for therapists!

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In-Person Therapy Appointments Now Available at Our Renovated Office

June 15, 2022 By Dr. Jennifer Contarino Panning

Mindful Psychology Associates is excited to offer in-person therapy services at our renovated suite in the historic Carlson Building in downtown Evanston! We have heard your requests for wanting to see a therapist in person, and are now enjoying seeing some of our older and newer clients in person.

As a healthcare facility, we require everyone (staff and clients) to wear masks while in the waiting room or therapy offices. We have medical-grade air purifiers in the waiting room, as well as each office, as precautions to keep our office a healthy environment. Each client will need to sign a waiver agreeing to our COVID protocols and guidelines.

We will continue offering telehealth services through our Zoom for Healthcare platform as long as health insurance continues to reimburse telehealth. The last two years have shown the effectiveness and power of telehealth and we are happy to offer choices to our clients, especially the convenience and increased access that telehealth offers.

After a very busy winter and spring, several of our clinicians have openings for new clients. Summer is a great time to focus on improving your mental health or discussing emotional readiness for college.

Mindful Psychology Associates’ two newest clinicians are accepting referrals for new clients! Amy Bailey, LCPC, is a seasoned clinician who works with young adults and adults on issues around depression, anxiety, and trauma. She also does couples therapy for couples seeking to strengthen their relationship or address serious concerns. MPA’s newest clinician, Alison Stoll, LPC, works with teens, children over age 10, and adults seeking support regarding trauma and mood disorders. She is also trained in EMDR, which is an effective therapy to address the impact of trauma.

For all inquiries, please contact our admin team at 847-864-0600 or visit www.evanstonpsychologists.com/scheduling-inquiry to get started in our intake system.

Wishing everyone a relaxing and fun summer!

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